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I'm curious for those who feel submission is only in the incarnation How do you separate out the Son's submission in the temporal acts of redemption from his submission in the eternal covenant of redemption in which he was the lamb slain before the foundation of the world? Does this not suggest a submission that occurred in eternity and was worked out in time? (This isn't a gotcha question, I'm genuinely interested)

I Buy His Brand New And Most RecentlyBook of C. John Jack Collins Reading Genesis Well and I Really I Appreciate that Book Including Genesis 1-4 I Understand the Connections of the Two books.

Kudos from the Philippines! Salute to Dr. Craig Bartholomew!

Re: Jesus IS the IMAGE. We are created in His Image. See: Phillip Edgecumb Hughes: TRUE IMAGE: The Origin and Destiny of Man in Christ.

Is there any record of this debate between Moreland, Shermer, and others??

Albert Mohler appeard so misinformed. His argument is exactly the same as Roman Catholics on other issues

Thank you Pastor Begg for your faithfulness and humility 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

Good morning! Likely to be quite a day...

Great!

Dr crisp is a theologian I greatly admire

Wonderful word PS Begg❤ so true

What a beautiful soul and mind. When Dr. Richter broke her emotion in Isaiah's description of Jesus, I remembered my own reaction on first reading this description of our suffering Saviour, physically broken, not to be looked upon, ripped by the scourge, hated by man. I could see His image in the poor, destroyed prisoner from the congregation of the pastor with a question. A Jewish man who suffered in much the same way as Christ, but still spiritually broken, needing to realize that God knows his suffering, because He, too suffered injustice. Forgiveness is the cure, bringing us closer to Jesus every time we try to understand what brings a person to hate enough to break another. I suffered as a child under unrelenting bullying and humiliation in school, not only by classmates, but by some of my teachers as well. From grade 1 to my senior year in high school. I was threatened with being stabbed in PE on the next cross country run; I was molested by a nun in front of the class-just for a laugh; I was forced to draw, then wear a sandwich board sign all day in school for two days proclaiming that I had the sloppiest desk in Room 5. I would cry out to God, "Why do they hate me? I never did nothing to nobody." Every night, I prayed without an answer. My sin? Only that I was different and stood out for ridicule. Small, skinny, not so good looking, but a decent student nonetheless. I hated mankind in general for a long time and never felt the presence of God in my life. Then I forgave and tried to understand what could bring a person to hate another so much, that they would wish for his innocent death. It brought me closer to Christ. He forgave His tormentors, and He forgives us our own trespasses as well. Now I feel unburdened, free from my own dark sins and thoughts. I am closer to my Lord than ever. But, it took personal forgiveness toward others to become the key that unlocked my deep love and faith in Jesus Christ. We could learn alot from the suffering of Jesus Christ, the pain of God watching His chosen people turning to other gods, their spiritual whores, and of course, the prophets like Hosea, who knew all about suffering and bore it through their faith.

MIND IS KNOWLEDGE BUT NOT LOVE.. CRUCIFIED SOUL IS LOVE ONLY

GOD IS ONLY LOVE.. OUR REAL CRUCIFIED SOUL IS LOVE ALSO.. CRUCIFIED MEANS FREED FROM THINKING MIND N SENSORY PERCEPTIONS

YEC is a crazy cult for gullible people. A theory appreciated by the Flat Earth community

Thank you so much. Yes indeed dots have been connected from Genesis to the New Testament and my understanding of the second of the ten commandments.

This is great! A brilliant companion to reading Torrance's work.

I love your history and wisdom. It seems to me that the early church was holistic because Christian life was lived in homes with no hierarchy separation o Lay and Clergy but gifts of all in operation. The ParaChurch movement is also lay led and operates on gifts not titles separating us by education. I was Asst Dean at a state university in the Jesus Movement and my church refused to accept the hippies. We opened our home to students and dozens came, were reborn, and recovered from sex, drugs, and porn. The Great Commission says go to all nations but that is ethnic groups and many rejected ‘saving heathen’ which is the core of Jesus’ call. Our house church was diverse in ethnicity, socioeconomic background, and denomination. Kingdom not denomination. We included females and males, young and old, educated and uneducated. Many of our new friends became full time Christians as lawyers, engineers, educators, pastors and priests. We prayed to the addicted, the lame, and those under spiritual attack and saw miracles. That approach is threatening to current structures and egos. I teach this model in over 50 nations of every race.

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Thanks for this profound and Christ honoring message. Our faith is in Jesus and what he has accomplished for us.

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Very illuminating work, quite a pity the narative style is so slow and almost boring. Even in writing, the dryness of the style affects the beautiful and novel content.

Wow… thank you

Simply beautiful. Praised be the Lord!

🙌🏼… wow…

Thank you!

Are there higher quality video recordings of these sessions?

Thanks so much! A blessing from God

This is such a good video!

Just starting a sermon series on Hebrews. I have Cockerill’s commentary on Hebrews…..it’s nice to put a face and a voice to the commentary. Thank you for this video and thank you for sharing it!!

She is incredible.

I say, “Yes!” to No.

I was really convinced by Doug. As for Doug, I don't think he did a great job.

The metaphysics professor presented a trinity of clones… I would have asked how that does not make two of them redundant. Additionally there is no approximate human analogy to this horror as even identical twins raised in the same house are distinct in many measurable ways.

Africa is not friendly to Christians.

The fact that Christians can use the same bible and still come to such a plethora of different views about the intermediate state tells me that it is going to be reasonable for the outsider to conclude that the biblical data are, quite simply, incapable of reasonably certain resolution. This means we are further reasonable to accordingly disregard the biblical views, and stick with the neuro-scientific view that shows the mind is merely an emergent property of the physical brain, leaving us no reason to think there 's a ghost in the machine. The naturalistic viewpoint violates Occam's Razor far less than the absurd "our spirits come into our brains" malarkey that the mainstream Christian view requires. Therefore, why would it matter if the naturalistic view is false? It isn't like "life is more than physical" is going to resolve the problem of what God wants, a problem that the bible doesn't solve but only exacerbates. Being wrong about the spiritual existence is about as worrisome as being wrong about pyramid power. Not like I'm gonna be losing any sleep about it.

We need to hear more about this! Great talk. I came here by way of Tim Gombis.

The biggest problem I see here, for Douglas Moo, is that he has to unpack (or entirely dismiss) 1200 years of theological church history since he is starting with the Reformation and not with Scripture in terms of his stance on justification. This is anachronistic on his part since he has the cart (reformation theology of justification) before the horse (what Paul is actually saying in his letters regarding soteriology). It's exactly as Douglas Campbell pointed out (directing his confusion at Dr. Moo) when Campbell says, "It seems to me that you're abandoning the text but hanging on to the doctrine." I know that there is a lot to unpack here (in this debate) in such a limited amount of time, but, in my humble opinion, Campbell did a much better job of delineating his stance than did Moo.

Excellent teaching!

Where can I find a copy of this lecture text or the paper?

I got Temi to transcript this for me, thought to share in case useful for others. Annoying that transcript was turned off here, but perhaps a legal thing. Only Mohler's side, cos of my tightness limiting me to 45 minutes free transcription. docs.google.com/document/d/1_01_ZM_ENDmtYBtdGBcYiwRIoKwNWusfxvX1Vplo3v4/edit#

Can the eternal role subordination (RS) position of Ware/Grudem be expressed or articulated without presupposing time making it economic only? For example, how can subordination be expressed without movement in time? To choose, predestine or plan all presuppose time. To move from a moment of counsel to a moment of conclusion. Grudem in his opening statement says such things with no awareness of this fact. Seems to me that one should not project into eternity past revelations sensible only in time. Lord, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me. Psa.131:1

Good exposition... However, I wish Dr. Steve would carry his reaearch in other parts of Africa to strengthen his suggested methodology and findings. Furthermore, some historiographical research on witchcraft in Africa will also help.

If you really pay attention to what he's saying it's that God is not the author here, it's the Israelites "doing their theology" through "mytho-history."

Gunton appears to be a disciple of T.F. Torrance.

If Rome had embraced something like the notion of an economy of interpretive authority, the divisions of the reformation might have been avoided. Without the five Solas, or at least the first three, Rome became irreformable. Without Sola Ecclesia, the Protestants continued to divide.

Amen!

This was extremely painful to watch because JP Moreland was very arrogant during this debate. It was extremely difficult to hear the points because he keeps on interjecting.